is chuck norris a ninja?

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Permalink Reply by BlackMark on December 2, 2007 at 8:02pm

I must say that I agree with every single thing that you said.

As far as I'm concerned, I see nothing wrong with purpose. I see it as nothing more than an illusion, so you can chose to believe in it or not, and you can define how that illusion appears. I chose to believe in time (which I also consider to be an illusion) because it is convenient for my calculations. Indeed, if having purpose is convenient (or -- as it is most often -- necessary) for one to follow his/her own design, then I see nothing wrong with it.

The argument between Kaitilynn and I emerged from her thoughtless and imprudent efforts to impose her religion upon others.

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Permalink Reply by Jianuzzi on December 2, 2007 at 8:58pm

how did a chuck norris conversation turn into a religous debate?? I seriously don't want to find out so i just need to remove all your tounges to spare my ears. geez!

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Permalink Reply by BlackMark on December 2, 2007 at 9:17pm

It all started back on page 4 when Katilynn decided to draw a connection between the topic and Christianity (obviously in an attempt to integrate her religious impositions into her online conversations), and it has managed to be rekindled several times over the course of these 15 pages -- even after it seemed to have totally died down -- by Katilynn's continued compulsions to display her ignorance [and in one particular case, intolerance].

Might I congratulate you on being the only person besides Katilynn to once again set aflame the religious tensions that this thread has been facing. Just when I thought it had finally subsided...

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Permalink Reply by Katilynn on December 3, 2007 at 3:48pm

if you don't like it then stop going to this discussion

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Permalink Reply by comickitty on December 5, 2007 at 11:35pm

Have another drink,you'll feel hoppier.

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Permalink Reply by Katilynn on December 3, 2007 at 3:38pm

I agree with you, we christians and many other religion or no religion at all want and tend to hide under the security of trust, and faith. We do have to worry though, thats why there are marters. I can't rely on God pulling away from a bullet speeding towards me, thats not going to happen. I know my God is looking out for me but that doesn't mean I can be careless.
I really don't have a remark on you not believing in purpose because I could quote the bible all I wan but that doesn't mean anything to someone who doesn't believe that God gave it to us. I'm not going to fight with someone who is an aerospace student with a minor in physics because I'm a 13 year old who still has problems with my science homework!
I don't have a religion I have a relationship with God, religion become very seclusive groups that tend to eventually fall from their beliefs trying to get power in their chuch, temple whatever. The question how is anwered in the Bible. Do I think God snapped His fingers just like that? No, I believe there was time put into everything. You can call me naive for putting my life in God's hands but thats the choice I made because I have faith.
Science to me is in fact another religion, people base everything they know and trust on what other people have come up with. Science is also a way where people find a security blanket because they trust that everything will go alright because scientists can find a way to stop whatever is happening...

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Permalink Reply by BlackMark on December 3, 2007 at 4:23pm

You're starting to grow up. I'm proud of you, as odd as that might sound.

I understand where your perception of science comes from, but I assure you that it is utterly false. That is how many atheists tend to treat science, and in that sense you're right about it... but don't allow the foolish atheists of the world to spoil the magnificence of science.

The reality about science is it openly and readily admits its own imperfection. It acknowledges how it is frequently wrong about many things, and that's exactly what makes it so strong. It's dynamic and constantly improving, because it knows that it isn't right about most things, whereas religion has a tendency to stagnate and uphold obsolete traditions.

No real scientist would treat it like a security blanket. If you ever ask a scientist what it is they really know about the world, they're likely to say, "Nothing. But I have a really good idea about a whole lot of stuff." The funny thing is that every day there are thousands of scientists trying to disprove every theory that has ever been developed. Why? Because if a theory can be disproven, that's progress, however slight. Finding out where we are wrong is another way of determining where we're right.

Practically everything that science runs on are "theories". These theories are only assumed to be correct for the time being because we haven't yet found them to be wrong. If we ever find something to defy a theory, we immediately scrap that theory (after becoming sufficiently certain that it actually was wrong) and start over. The "Laws of Physics" that you hear about are little more than theories that we're really really sure about and which manage to define the foundation for our understanding of the universe. They are still subject to speculation and even change (many of them were only developed fairly recently).

Don't let the way that atheists treat science misconstrue your understanding of the real thing. It's really quite beautiful and artistic in nature, in that it's the closest thing that human beings have to perfection simply because it recognizes its own imperfection. Poetic, eh?

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Permalink Reply by BlackMark on December 3, 2007 at 5:01pm

I've actually been meaning to ask a Jew about this, but I'm always forgetting, so I'm glad you brought this up... Do you know if the "Old Testament" contains the complete works of the TaNaK or is there more that the Canon decided to leave out? Of course I realize that it's been translated, so meanings and semantics are probably a bit skewed, but is the Old Testament complete content-wise?

And, not to turn on you, but the TaNaK was constructed by men, was it not? ;D

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Permalink Reply by BlackMark on December 4, 2007 at 4:16pm

And according to the Christians, the Bible is the Inspired Word of God. The only difference I see is explicitness vs implicitness. So... it's sort of like a difference between cold, hard rules and suggestions. I guess the problem that many Christians have is that they treat the suggestions as cold, hard rules and fail to take them to heart rather than law.

But I suppose this is the nature of man. Not having concrete absolutes to operate on means that they need to think for themselves, and many view this as a scary thing. Then, when faced with fear, most people crumble and fall.

This is why we need heroes and, if I might, Messiahs. But one will never be enough. Mankind needs a refresher every once in a while. But once those refreshers have seen the ends of their times, they seem to always leave behind a trail of war and savagery (not that it's really their fault, though).

Now mankind doesn't need a refresher... it needs a revolution. It needs a permanent change for the better, or else we'll be faced with our untimely demise.

Those are my thoughts, anyway.

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Permalink Reply by BlackMark on December 6, 2007 at 1:58pm

I love it how Christians don't realize that their mythologies are stolen from the very pagans whom they perceive to be so evil.

Permalink Reply by Rock-Lee12 on December 3, 2007 at 5:18am

hes not fast enough
lol

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Permalink Reply by Tora-chan on December 4, 2007 at 10:12am

Everyone should know..... He's a ninja in diguise!

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